Politicians are podcasting their way onto phone screens, but the impact may be fleeting
- Written by: Susan Grantham, Lecturer in Communication, Griffith University
Australian podcast listeners have been treated to two appearances by the same guest in the past week: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese.
Yesterday, sports comedy team The Grade Cricketer[1] announced a new podcast, The Circus, in which Albanese was the first guest. While Albanese isn’t necessarily known for his love of cricket, he appeared relaxed, laughing and authentic.
It came hot on the heels of his previous podcast appearance, with influencer Abbie Chatfield. Chatfield’s content is often about feminism and social justice: a very different demographic of consumers.
While few voters may listen to a full episode (and many may have never heard of the podcasts or the attached personalities), that doesn’t really matter. The real impact is in the short-form video clips that get repackaged for TikTok and Instagram.
These viral snippets offer politicians a chance to appear authentic, relatable and human[2]: traits that can make or break a modern political campaign, especially one that will likely be decided by Australians under 40[3].
The politics of podcasting
Podcasting has become a vital component of modern political strategy[4], offering long-form, intimate conversations that contrast with the often combative nature of traditional media interviews.
As podcast interviews are usually conducted by hosts highly sympathetic to the politician’s cause, they’re rarely as hard-hitting as traditional media. It’s unsurprising politicians would seek them out for that reason alone.
In last year’s US presidential race, both candidates went on popular podcasts to boost their messaging[5].
In Australia, consider the case of Chatfield’s podcast. Her strong social media presence (more than 580,000 followers on both Instagram and TikTok) ensures any political commentary reaches a vast and engaged audience.
Combine this with further amplification by other influencers such as Holly MacAlpine[6] (who has 100,000 TikTok followers), and the virality of the message becomes significant.
MacAlpine has been trending for a while after her contribution to accusations about Opposition Leader Peter Dutton’s private life[7], further amplifying her political commentary.
Earlier this month, Albanese also appeared on Betoota Talks[8], the podcast run by the creators of satirical news site The Betoota Advocate. It’s clear Labor is relying on podcasts with strong social media followings to reach younger, digitally engaged audiences.
It’s not just Labor using podcasts and influencers.
Dutton appeared on Diving Deep with Sam Fricker, an Olympian turned influencer. His TikTok boasts two million followers. Airing back in December, it was an early nod[9] from the Liberal Party leader that his election campaigning had commenced.
Hiding the real power
While podcasts offer politicians a platform for extended storytelling, the real political currency comes from the carefully clipped, high-impact moments that make their way to TikTok and Instagram reels.
These videos are bite-sized, making them easier to consume and share. They are emotionally engaging - laughter, passion and frustration all translate well.
It creates a platform for individual leaders to further solidify their political authenticity through sharing the clips.
Crucially, it provides further opportunities for influencers and other social media users to amplify, engage with, and reshape the content, extending its reach and impact across digital networks.
This is important to reach the younger voters who largely make up the user base of TikTok. This election will be the first that Baby Boomer voters are outnumbered[10] by Gen Z and Millenials, so political parties can’t afford to ignore them.
Slow off the blocks?
In 2022, Labor’s digital campaign[11] was widely praised for its effectiveness. From meme-driven content to a strong presence on TikTok, Labor successfully tapped into online culture to engage younger voters and shape the political narrative.
Now, it’s unclear whether that strategy is still being deployed effectively. Yes, individual influencers are propping up Albanese’s image, but is the party itself doing enough to drive a coordinated digital campaign?
Consider Dutton’s decision to join TikTok[12]. It was a move that, while seemingly contradictory to the Coalition’s prior stance on banning the platform, signals an understanding that TikTok is an unavoidable political battleground.
The Liberal Party has upped its TikTok game. Its videos often outperform Labor’s[13].
The videos that are posted on Albanese’s TikTok, which he first posted to in December[14], are often poorly received.
Labor seems to be relying on influencer support and positive branding by association rather than running its own robust, digital-first strategy.
Where to from here?
What’s clear is that political campaigning is no longer just about ads, speeches, and debates. It’s about engagement on the platforms where voters actually spend their time. If parties don’t take control of their narratives in these spaces, others will do it for them.
The crossover of podcasting and short-form video is redefining political engagement. Politicians who appear on the right platforms are tapping into a new form of authenticity that resonates online.
But unless those appearances are part of a structured, strategic approach, they remain fleeting moments rather than sustained influence.
References
- ^ The Grade Cricketer (www.gradecricketer.com)
- ^ authentic, relatable and human (news.griffith.edu.au)
- ^ Australians under 40 (theconversation.com)
- ^ modern political strategy (www.theguardian.com)
- ^ boost their messaging (theconversation.com)
- ^ Holly MacAlpine (www.instagram.com)
- ^ accusations about Opposition Leader Peter Dutton’s private life (www.crikey.com.au)
- ^ Betoota Talks (www.betootaadvocate.com)
- ^ it was an early nod (www.theguardian.com)
- ^ are outnumbered (theconversation.com)
- ^ digital campaign (www.tandfonline.com)
- ^ Dutton’s decision to join TikTok (theconversation.com)
- ^ outperform Labor’s (www.abc.net.au)
- ^ December (www.tiktok.com)
Authors: Susan Grantham, Lecturer in Communication, Griffith University
